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let me hear your voice tonight ([personal profile] alexseanchai) wrote2015-12-30 03:34 pm

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My folks, bar youngest sister, all went to see Star Wars. Obviously I can't go. Koff koff hack hack koff. So I grabbed one of the books I've been meaning to read. Spiritual Foodways: An Ecofeminist Perspective on Our Sacred Journey With Food, Teresa Marbut. Sounds fascinating, right?

In the introduction, Marbut outs her son as autistic, ADHD, schizophrenic, and bipolar. And then asserts (no footnotes on this assertion; at this point in the introduction, there have been eighty footnotes, so it's not that she is having trouble with the concept of citing sources) "Each of these conditions has been linked--as probable, partial causal factors--with the foods I ate as a child, the foods I ate before I got pregnant with him, and the foods I ate during my pregnancy;" also the BPA in his baby bottles and the processed foods he himself ate when small.

I am really pissed off at this author.
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[personal profile] silverhare 2015-12-30 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Wowwwwww. That author is .... *shakes head, searching for words* an asshat.
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Sooooooooooooo

[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2015-12-30 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
She didn't interact with him? Take him with her to the grocery store (cigarette smoke, pesticide use), the park (pesticides, cigarette smoke, other substances), or to stores to buy household items and clothes (industrial cleaners, sizing, and items doused in chemical baths before being shipped from other nations to the US, for example). Even if he's not trying the little baby Birkenstocks ON, he's breathing around all of these unknown residues.

But back to interaction: what about the social interactions and events which shaped his intellectual, emotional and social development?

Oh,wait, no, it's ALL attributable to BPA and non-organic food consumption.
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Re: Sooooooooooooo

[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2015-12-30 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I know, there are both genetic and environmental factors for autism, schizoaffective disorders (or whatever the newest umbrella term is) and manic-depressive disorders.

As far as I know, eating bad crap makes my emotions harder to deal with, my physical body feel sluggish and sore, my pain management go out the window, and my bathroom scale GROAN at me.

Which adds up to, "If she' already had 80 footnotes in the introduction, I think she KNOWS this was just a case of determined, willful illogic on her part.

As for outing her kid... Yeah, that's pretty low, and I'm not sure how I'd deal with that if she were family instead of Random Author.
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Re: Sooooooooooooo

[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2015-12-30 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems more of a problem for her son, actually.

Heaven knows, growing up with someone's One True Solution to disability sucked for me, but at least it wasn't OBVIOUSLY on the edges of average American experience.
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Re: Sooooooooooooo

[personal profile] aldersprig 2015-12-31 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
/Yes!/

"If you eat this superfood, maybe it will make everything better. Here, try this homeopathic/organic/natural remedy. Maybe meditation? Meditation is good."

I did't tell mom about the scar tissue on my white matter for /years/ because I didn't want her to do that even more.
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[personal profile] aldersprig 2015-12-31 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs*
(we're pretty sure by this point it's nothing, but for a while there was a fear it might be the early stages of MS.)
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[personal profile] shanaqui 2015-12-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...Well. She's not wrong that food she ate up to his birth could've affected his epigenome. (And if she's not talking about epigenetics, then she's just wrong.)

But I'm not sure I've seen anything linking epigenetics with any of those things.
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[personal profile] shanaqui 2015-12-30 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
My first result when googling "epigenetics autism spectrum" was Autism Speaks.

So yeah. There do seem to be some legit sources, but without digging through them I don't know who funded them so they may not really be legit upon examination.
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[personal profile] untonuggan 2015-12-31 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
holy fucking shitballs. that's...wow. (inserts rant about ethics in science journalism, just because, as well as what should be Mom Ethics.)

also, i have read some things being like "bipolar and schizophrenia may very likely be genetics based and triggered epigenetics, but we have no idea WHAT the triggers are or how to turn them off and this needs a bajillion more dollars and years of research."

which would seem like something...she...could...footnote.

oh look, here, this took less than 5 minutes:

"The fluctuating course and the evidence that stress can play a triggering role in bipolar disorder suggest the possibility of an epigenetic component to pathogenesis and pathophysiology....No definitive results have yet been published that clearly demonstrate a role for epigenetic variation in bipolar disorder etiology or pathophysiology."

Shinozaki, Gen, Benjamin Hing and James B. Potash (December 31, 2015). Epigenetics in Psychiatry (pp. 265-278). Retrieved from http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780124171145000139
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[personal profile] tptigger 2016-01-01 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think that book can go back to the library unread
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[personal profile] silveradept 2016-01-01 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like someone really wants to pay their solution, without actually bothering to check for the factual matter, or who would get hurt in the process.