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alexseanchai) wrote2017-01-06 10:23 am
alexseanchai) wrote2017-01-06 10:23 am
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I am trying to get Another Project organized and off the ground. Is, among a couple other things, a poetry analysis project. If people want to link me to your favorite poems, that would be lovely; bonus points if the poems are at least one of (1) by you (2) by someone marginalized (3) by someone multiply marginalized (4) older than 1923. That way I have a stack of poems ready to analyze without relying solely on my own favorites!
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My favorite poem by someone 'multiply marginalized' is Muriel Rukeyser's "To Be a Jew in the Twentieth Century": http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/m_r/rukeyser/tobeajew.htm
My favorite poem from before 1923 is Robert Browning's "Caliban Upon Setebos": https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43748 (or really an unpredictable rotation of Caliban and two other Browning poems, "Rabbi ben Ezra" and "Andrea del Sarto".)
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*bounce* Thank you!
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Woohoo! I love when people analyze poetry. We need more of that.
>> If people want to link me to your favorite poems, that would be lovely; bonus points if the poems are at least one of (1) by you<<
You may use any of my published poetry in your analysis. (It's hardly fair of me to critique other people's poetry if I don't offer mine in return.) Some that may be useful:
"Father Sun, Mother Moon" -- aka that time I hacked Proto-Indo-European to write a poem which predates modern languages.
"Fair Maiden Meets Fierce Villain" -- a terza rima, the original first in Fiorenza the Wisewoman.
"Accidents of Art and Science" -- free verse, standalone.
>> (2) by someone marginalized
Langston Hughes was black. I used his poetry to show black students that people like them could write poetry on topics relevant to their lives. "A Dream Deferred" is a favorite.
>> (3) by someone multiply marginalized
Lorna Dee Cervantez is Chicana / mixed race and female. Her poem "Freeway 280" is visible online, but really, look for a copy of her collection Emplumada if you can find it.
While we're talking about poetry books, also look for the anthology The Stuffed Owl: An Anthology of Bad Verse.
(4) older than 1923.
"You May Forget But" by Sappho.
"The Old Pond" by Matsuo Basho.
"The Lake Isle of Innisfree" by W.B. Yeats.
If you plan to post your analysis online, I would love to get a link to that when it's finished, so I can boost the signal to my readers. I have already linked to your call for poems.
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(Robert Frost is another collective favorite for a completely different reason, but.)
-Fallon~
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4) (3?) & 2) They shut me up in prose, by Emily Dickinson (there is some speculation that Emily Dickinson was a recluse because she had epilepsy, and I've seen this poem cited as evidence). Do you consider women poets marginalized? I would think so, but...
1) & 3) by me (a physically disabled woman): Anthem (for the People of No Nation)
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Yep, women are marginalized.
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http://lovefromsirius.deviantart.com/art/black-out-edition-626239550?q=lovefromsirius&qo=2
(This one comes from a lot of lesbian angst and also abuse. so please don't be so harsh on them)
http://lovefromsirius.deviantart.com/art/BLACK-OUT-526584696?q=lovefromsirius&qo=6
(these i wrote in my stay at a mental hospital. take them as you will because i was honestly too drugged up on anxiety meds to remember what i was thiking at the time of writing them.)
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I'm planning more "this is how the poet is using these poetic devices to express this concept" than, like, criticism. :)
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http://genius.com/Langston-hughes-harlem-what-happens-to-a-dream-deferred-annotated
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Is a v good poem. Thanks!
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:-D
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4: My favorite poem of ever is The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/detail/44212
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*bounce* Thanks!
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Three Knives of Winter
Cold cuts heat away from the fingers.
Wind cuts skin away from the lips.
Silence cuts worry away from the heart.
Three Things the Sun Destroys
Snow on the pines melts.
Stars in the sky fade.
Dreams of the beloved dead are forgotten.
Three Things That Cast No Shadow
The wind does not cast a shadow on the grass.
The cloud does not cast a shadow on the sky.
Death does not end love.
And here's a link to a really great one from
Other poetry I like:
A Martian Sends A Postcard Home by Craig Raine
I Have Not Had One Word From Her by Sappho (Mary Bernard's translation is good!)
Sonnet 17 by Pablo Neruda
Here's a sort of lullaby from Gombojav Mend-Oyoo (translated, but I don't know by whom, got it off Mend-Oyoo's website):
Horse Time
The horseman lays down his head,
the mirage of horses lays down its head,
the horseblue hills lay down their heads
The steed lays down its head,
the pasture of steeds lays down its head,
the steed stones lay down their heads.
The horseblue steppe lays down its head,
the dust of horses lays down its head,
the horse time lays down its head
Here's a link to another of his: Four Red Leaves. He's Mongolia's Poet-Laureate, got his start secretly writing poetry about forbidden topics like nomadic life during the forced modernization of Mongolia under Soviet influence, so his poetry is very nostalgic, but in a sort of fierce revolutionary way, like, "I'm risking jail for this cute lullaby about sleepy horse-dust." :) I feel like you can sort of tell, there's a strange intensity to them that I like.
A couple I'm fond of from the Ogura Hyakunin Isshu, an anthology of classical Japanese poetry compiled in the1200s. It's 100 poems from 100 poets, each titled with the author's name. They're a modified version of MacCauley's translation.
Otomo no Yakamochi
If I see that bridge
That is spanned by flights of magpies
Across the arc of heaven
Made white with a deep-laid frost,
Then the night is almost past.
Oe no Chisato
As I view the moon,
Many things come into my mind,
And my thoughts are sad;
Yet it's not for me alone,
That the autumn time has come.
Emperor Sanjo
Though I do not want
To live on in this floating world,
If I remain here,
Let me remember only
This midnight and this moonrise.
Might make another comment if I think of more stuff!
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That is LOTS ♥! Thank you!
Personal Favs
(2) and (4) Ella Wheeler Wilcox wrote another favorite of mine, called The Voice of the Voiceless; this is one of my favorite versions of it.
(4) Philip Larkin wrote Take One Home For the Kiddies.
(4) Robinson Jeffers wrote Hurt Hawks.
(2) Buddy Wakefield wrote A Waste
(3) Andrea Gibson wrote The Nutritionist
I am a genderqueer, female bodied, disabled person, and I write a fair bit of poetry, but Family Man from
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here from ysabetwordsmith's post
I'm guessing that she doesn't count as multiple marginalised as she was white in Australia in the early 1900s, and is described as 'a woman of independent means', but presumably being female is indicative of some level of marginalisation?.
Having said that, the only poem I have ever voluntarily learnt by heart is "Forgiven" by A.A. Milne, but I think it fails all of the criteria, given that my copy of 'Now We Are Six', in which it was published, has a copyright date of 1927.
Re: here from ysabetwordsmith's post
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A handful of mine, which you've seen before, as this was a response to you on a talking meme awhile back. (I'm a left-handed, physically disabled fat Jewish woman --for various levels of marginalization )
Not sure if you're up for fannish poetry, but this could be DeFANged with a bit of editing.
Apples, Oranges (Blood and Wine) Smallville Clark/Lex Adult
http://archiveofourown.org/works/659533
Sensory: Five poems for Five Senses due South Fraser/Kowalski (some explicit)
http://archiveofourown.org/works/657902
Poem by someone whose writing inspires me: The Long Death by Marge Piercy (Jewish woman )
http://www.ratical.org/radiation/NGP/LongDeath.html
(Pre 1912 suggestions may be ahead )
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*bounce* Thanks!
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we are a large family of variously-marginalised people/creatures/things who share access to this world via one human body, and many of us write poetry we'd be happy to share with you if you would like. if there's any specific perspective or situation you're looking for poetry from/by/relating to, feel free to let us know as we may be able to help due to having a wide pool of different writers to draw from. :) (smilie) we do not however have anything to offer that is older than 1923. but the other three points, all our poetry would fill.
if you are interested, may we have permission to add you to our access list and poetry filters? we'll link you to the relevant posts if so, but if not we'll find another option, don't worry! ^_^ (happy relaxed face)
if you've already got plenty of poetry to work from, and you're not looking for any more at this point, that's fine too of course!
~ the beasts
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Oooh, Millay. :-D