Yeeeeah nobody likes this idea. But at this point Adrien only cares whether it will work.

[alexseanchai]

CN serious injury, self-injury, blood. Might also choose not to click if you're unnerved by vampires.

Scenario: Post-reveal on multiple fronts. Marinette is on the verge of dying. (Internal bleeding? Blood loss? Who knows? I haven't decided exactly what bits Gabriel stabbed yet.) Tikki is exhausted. Neither Marinette nor Adrien has anything to feed Tikki. No one will be able to get them help of any kind soon enough unless Gabriel permits that, which he will not do. Recent events have not exactly lessened Adrien's willingness to get himself hurt or killed if his so doing will improve Ladybug's chances against Hawkmoth. Killing Gabriel is technically an option Adrien has, but it's neither desirable nor, more to the point, certain.

Think Tikki could recharge via Adrien's blood sugar?

ETA: I did math and no.

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[soc_puppet]

Okay, hold tight, because by the time we get to the fourth one, it's gonna get extra gross and terrible and just all-around bad.

My first thought: Where's Marinette's purse? She usually keeps an extra macaron or two in there, especially later in the series.

My second thought: How recently has he eaten, and what was it?

My third thought: I'm not really sure whether blood is where sugar is most concentrated in the body, anyway.



My fourth thought: ...I mean. There was that first aid class I took like ten years ago. And how, if there was a clear liquid coming from someone's ears, if it smelled/tasted (ew) sweet, that meant it was brain fluid, because apparently there's a fair amount of sugar in the brain.



Did I say something about a unicorn chaser? Because I think I need a whole herd's worth now.

[alexseanchai]

1) Inaccessible. Same goes for anything Adrien might have had for Plagg.

2) I don't know but I see no reason the answer can't be "a couple hours ago and a solid breakfast, and then when he got to school Marinette gave him a big extra-sweet coffee and he drank it all".

3&4) Adrien may not care how badly he gets hurt here, but Tikki will.

[alexseanchai]

8 to 10 g sugar per cookie is typical. (If possibly Americentric.) For someone without diabetes, 140 mg/dL blood sugar is the high end of expected for a couple hours after a meal. Donating 10% of total blood volume is safe; the line between class 1 and 2 hemorrhage is 15%. The average 150 to 180 lb adult should have about 1.2 to 1.5 gal blood, which is 4.5 to 5.7 L. Assuming Adrien is sixteen and six foot even, a weight of 150 lb puts him at the 46th percentile; of what I'm not sure, but this BMI calculator is happy. So 4.5 L times 10 dL/L slash 10 to get to safe blood loss range equals 4.5 dL, times 140 mg/dL equals 630 mg. We could bleed Adrien 100% dry and Tikki still wouldn't get a whole cookie's worth of sugar.

[silveradept]

Not Adrien's, perhaps, but who knows what an enraged Tikki might resort to in getting her sugar, if the suggestion of exsanguination is put in her head? I mean, there's one very juicy target right there that's the source of their problems...

[alexseanchai]

Eh. I don't think so.

Or, well, she might tell Adrien no and then look significantly over at Hawkmoth for a moment to watch him sweat? But really, no. Given the above math, Adrien could have double the blood sugar I mathed with--which would put him well into "actively dying" hyperglycemia--and he'd still die of blood loss before Tikki had consumed enough to get the sugar content of one (1) actual cookie.

Adrien is okay in theory with killing Gabriel if Gabriel attacks again and he's pretty sure that would knock over the non-interference barrier, but in practice he isn't sure he can, else he'd have done it already, and it'd be a lot less messy to just rip Gabriel's throat out. Adrien is also entirely okay with dying to give Ladybug a strategic advantage. But Gabriel isn't all that much bigger than Adrien, thus doesn't have that much more blood volume, and probably has lower blood sugar rn because HE doesn't have a girlfriend who likes to feed him baked goods and extra sweet coffee. Recharging Tikki with Agreste blood sugar would kill both Adrien and Gabriel and it's just too much pain and mess for the strategic advantage.

Also Gabriel wouldn't hold still for it.

[silveradept]

Sure, the math wouldn't add up, but if Tikki has decided that Hawkmoth is going to be a meal, I'm not sure she cares about the math. Or whether he's going to hold still while she ravages him. Tikki's unchecked lucky charm might not make it matter, either.

I think the only person who matters in determining who lives and who dies if Tikki goes unchecked is Tikki.

[alexseanchai]

Valid points but like. The picture in my head involves Adrien (who proposed this and, on being assured it could work, wouldn't take no for an answer without a less risky alternative being presented) looking Gabriel dead in the eyes while Tikki's drinking, so Gabriel is forced to realize just how desperate Adrien is--how desperate Gabriel has made him--and to illustrate the contrast between a desperate Adrien and a desperate Gabriel. This picture derails because it couldn't actually work. And let's be honest, this picture started out way creepy ANYWAY. This idea is done. :P

[silveradept]

Okay. Done idea, creepy imagery.