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I have written in that fandom before, and have some convention running experience (though decidedly on the smaller end of the spectrum.)

I do not, alas, have spare space in the writing schedule for, um, a while.

Though I may let it percolate.

I am happy that the thought is tempting you!

offers the plot bunny greens.

I am familiar with SFF con fandom, transformative works fandom, I write fic but I've only done fan arts for Leverage. I am so close!

Also, people I know who have run Worldcons (I only worked on Westercon) think that Kirk/Spock slash was never a real thing, only some sort of early internet meme/hoax. I got made fun of for 'falling for it'. I was supposed to help do a fandom history track at Westercon, but that didn't happen for reasons.

early say what now???

I knew that lot was super fan-fic unfriendly, but it wasn't until I was working on Westercon that I ran into that. The year we had it, we needed to get the numbers up badly. I knew some groups that would totally attend if we gave them space to do their thing and have meetups and panels and they laughed at me like I'd fallen for a snipe hunt. 'We thought you knew fannish history but, we were really wrong' and other things were said to me.

One of them, someone who had chaired actual Worldcons asked me how my 'snipe hunts' were going for like a year after that to 'gently tease me' for having been to wrong as to think K/S was real.

Good Lord. How long ago was that?

Before the internet, or at least the web, surely -- it would have been a lot easier in the Olden Times to avoid any accidental encounters with actual documentary evidence.

Around 2015/2016. So, well into pro fic authors admitting they got their start in fan fics. The local SFF crowd is sort of stuck in the past and hate change. They think western SFF fandom is dying with them.

which—since they're clearly defining us out of it—it damn well better

~~Considering the current state of the OFSCI board I'd be happy to see that fall apart~~

They is old, though, and have actual endowments to sponsor writers and musicians. When the local crew runs a Worldcon they run it in Las Vegas because Portland isn't a viable site due to lack of rooms near the convention center. That is changing in two months and OFSCI has been planning for years to bring Worldcon run by that crew back to Portland as soon as possible.

Hi, I know a lot about the local SFF con scene and am willing to rant on everything from policies to art theft at a drop of a hat.

…yes, having money with which to do things is a useful quality that most of us haven't got, that is true

[blink]

Hello from a fellow Portlandian -- who is, weirdly enough, also tied into both the OSFCI-centric conrunning combine (although more and more tangentially these days) and the fanfic community (mostly by way of online activity, although also by way of a handful of Yuletide writing meetups). Indeed, I suspect there's a non-zero chance we've crossed paths at one or another OryCon over the last decade or two...and I've also crossed paths with Kevin Standlee in person on a handful of occasions -- the first having been long enough ago that there were Man From U.N.C.L.E. printzines for sale in the relevant BayCon dealers' room.

As far as OryCon itself is concerned, I know of at least one local who's been gradually working on this very con-stealing project in real life; if you look at last year's schedule, you'll find a panel on fic exchanges and also one on female Sherlock Holmes analogs that was fairly open about being fic-adjacent (both proposed and moderated by the same person). But from a historical perspective you're not wrong; local fic fandom and local conrunning fandom have -- with certain specific exceptions -- intersected very sparsely at best, and not typically on friendly terms.

That said, the fic-centric cluster is starting to wake up and organize on its own; see specifically Left Coast Sherlock coming up (good grief) in just a week, at which the moderators of the Holmestice fic exchange are two of the featured presenters. [I will be at that one, deerstalker hat and all.]

I will be at Left Coast Sherlock. Well, I am registered at least. That's a complicated weekend for me and I don't know how much I can attend. I also have no idea what to wear.

I am glad that someone is working on Orycon. I made a few changes there myself. I see a panel on online art theft, which is interesting as I took a very, very direct approach to making the con confront it's art theft problem a few years back. Orycon still has a lot of entrenched problems, but, like I said, it's hardly going anywhere.

God knows, I'm occasionally prone to fits of nostalgia for Fandom As I Knew It When I Was But A Newbie myself, but not to the extend of wilful blindness to the actual state of things.

It's fall and I am very prone to nostalgia right now. I want to walk back into late 90s fandom for a nice afternoon. The local SFF crowd is special. I didn't realize how recently all this had happened until you asked. I'd been thinking this was all years ago, but I was still involved and technically an OFSCI member myself until very recently.

also now that I am over the initial reeling at your second paragraph: I am hoping if I tempt enough people someone will write it

I have been rolling ideas in my head, but I think I need more space from the con world before I can use those experiences to write with. Right now any writing would be rants in fic form.

👍🏻

I have written Leverage, attended various comics and geeky cons, have been on the board of a gaming con, but I am too young to have a solid grasp of the history bits that are probably most important to the proposed idea of stealing a con, especially if part of the plotting requires greying SFF fans to complain about the kids these days.

I can do what I do best and rubber duck someone or something similar, if desired.

😸

(I am hoping if I tempt enough people someone will write it)

Like a couple of others, I match 2.5 out of 3 on this scorecard; I was at one time an active concom member locally (see elsewhere for my reply to

olivermoss), and still turn up at OryCon regularly. I have been writing fanfic long enough to have been published in a printzine back in the day, participated in an active forum community on FF.Net, and done Yuletide since before the AO3 migration.

I have not written Leverage fic to date, but that's more by chance than not -- my fanfic portfolio is highly varied by design. I've seen a good deal of the series, and have read both a good deal of fic for the show and some of the pro tie-in novels; the "let's steal a convention" idea is certainly within the orbit of things that I could write...

...given sufficient spare time, which is regrettably at something of a premium just now. However, it's definitely a tempting prospect, and absolutely appeals to the part of me that lives for meta.

ooo!

(I am hoping if I tempt enough people someone will write it)

Uh I have all the required knowledge and will be happy to poke at this - after I get my Patreon stuff up first.

YAY

Lovely work here getting the bunny up for adoption.