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[alexseanchai]

Hey, shiny, 6x08 passes Bechdel! I was beginning to think not a single S6 episode did, but 6x08 has Mandy and another mother and her daughter all talking, and we actually hear some of the conversation. Okay, the bit we hear goes "See you later" and "Bye", but it's a Bechdel-passing conversation!

...how pathetically low my expectations are.

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[neotoma]

It's SPN. Sometimes I'm embarrassed that I like the show because of how I have to turn off a lot of my critical analysis functions to not notice how few women or black people are in it.

Otoh, it generally does an *excellent* job of making the characters deal with their stupid mistakes. I hate it when the hero gets a pass for doing something stupid, unethical, illegal, or Just Plain Wrong, and Supernatural rarely does that. Mainly because letting the characters dig their own holes seems to be how they come up with the seasonal arcs on SPN.

[alexseanchai]

There's a reason I love reading genderbender fics and racebender fics involving Supernatural. Hannah wrote an excellent one for Remix this year, Children of the Wanderers (the Rock of Ages translation), remixing rivkat's Rock of Ages, in which the Winchesters are Jewish. (Which is not racebending, but is the same general idea.) Read it. There's also the ones in the Racebending Revenge Challenge, I remember one where Mary was Korean and one where the boys are part of a Romani clan and one where Mary Poppins is Hindu which is my favorite ever even though it's not Supernatural. And of course there are more Supernatural genderbender fics than can be counted.

There's also anytime ever the subject of torture comes up. Except when we're talking about Dean in hell, Dean v Alastair, or the kid in 6x03. But yeah.

[neotoma]

Yeah, I read Children of the Wanderers -- Chuck as Elijah is brilliant, and *so* much less skanky than Chuck as god.

I do love the racebending fics. Some of them are spectacular, some are just hilarious (the comics where the boys are Indian are hilarious).

[alexseanchai]

I don't know, Chuck as God seemed pretty inspired. I've always liked the idea that God is an author who lets bad things happen because it thickens the plot. (Says the atheist chick.)

[fhionnuisce]

Ugh, no, Chuck was a stand-in for Kripke. How can Kripke as god be inspired?

...Sorry, I just. D:

The first time we saw him I was into him but as it kept going and going... just no.

Although I did recently watch the con episode and think it was hilarious as opposed to before when the very idea deeply bothered me....

[alexseanchai]

Kripke as God does have its problems, yes.