SPN: 5x10 reaction

[alexseanchai]

DAMN YOU KRIPKE YOU KILLED ELLEN AND JO.

Marvelously done for both of them, I like the Jo we saw in this ep much better than the Jo we saw in Bad Sign and I can definitely see Ellen preferring to go down making sure her daughter's death was worth something, and as a consolation prize I won familiardevil's bet, but DAMN YOU KRIPKE YOU KILLED ELLEN AND JO.

Sam? You're still psychic. You need to learn to take advantage of that without Ruby's help. You could have blown the building yourself so Ellen wouldn't have to die.

Payoff from the damn voicemail. Finally. Those boys still need to talk about it, though.

Why didn't Dean shoot Meg? Though I do like what Castiel did with her. What's holy fire do to demons, I wonder?

Why the fuck were all the reapers old white men?

Loved Crowley. He's smarter than Azazel, gotta give him that, and it makes perfect sense that Lucifer would want to kill demons after he's done with humans, demons used to be humans. We gonna see Aziraphale? And did Crowley know the Colt wouldn't work on Lucifer? Who are the other four it won't work on? I'm betting he means it can't kill an archangel, and either there's five of them instead of the traditional four or seven (Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Lucifer, and an unidentified fourth who is obviously not Uriel even though that's the usual fourth with the first three) or he means it can't kill archangels or God (in which case the archangels would be those four or possibly seven and somebody should probably get investigating why the angels think God's dead because whatever's supposed to be able to kill God can probably kill Lucifer).

Onscreen gay kissing: yay. Contemporary political reference: yay. (Speaking of contemporary political references: is there seriously a billboard somewhere that says "Anti-God is Anti-American"? If so, why the fuck was there such a fuss over the one saying "Don't believe in God? You are not alone"?) Crowley not kissing one of our boys: boo.

How's Lucifer know when and where Sam's supposed to say yes to him? (Bets on the final showdown being in Detroit six months from this point in story-time?) Does he know what he and Dean said in The End, or are we still running with that being a Zachariah-induced mindfuck?

Why didn't Lucifer kill Dean? Okay, yes, Zachariah would probably know (have I mentioned before that I figure the rib sigils only work when the soul's in the body, like Sam's psychic ability in Death Takes a Holiday?) and definitely bring him back, but still.

I have been having plot bunnies featuring Sam and Lucifer having theological debate. Generally as a distraction from what other characters are up to, but still. Guess these have all been Jossed.

New ep on the twenty-first, not the fourteenth? Damn. I wanted a new ep for my birthday. And that promo—I've read that fic. More than one of that fic. If they get out of there sane—not that they're going in sane, or that they'll necessarily go insane, but you know—they should have learned something. I love my boys codependent and there's no way they can live normal mentally-healthy lives at this point but they still need to know that codependence isn't healthy.

But mostly: DAMN YOU KRIPKE YOU KILLED ELLEN AND JO.

I think I need to rewatch a couple times and possibly marathon the series (or at least 3x14 through 5x10 because 3x14's where I left off) before I fic.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I will need to watch this at least a half dozen times, oh hell....with the hiatus, probably more.

Ellen and Jo's death made me cry and SPN has never done that before!

[alexseanchai]

I didn't cry, it's damn near impossible for fiction to make me cry, but I definitely had that can't-breathe gonna-cry feeling.

[giandujakiss]

I was wondering about the old white male reapers - although to be fair, we've only seen three, and the only reason we were told that one was a woman was because she was specifically trying to talk to Dean. Apparently, old white men is their default, which I'm trying to get upset about except that it really does look very creepy.

[alexseanchai]

Three? Tessa twice, her friend in Death Takes a Holiday, and dozens this ep. Where're you getting three? (It is indeed very creepy. But still.)

[giandujakiss]

I mean, before this episode, we'd met three different reapers. Tessa, the one from Faith, and the other one from Death Takes a Holiday. Of those three, two were white men. The third, Tessa, took the form of a woman specifically to communicate with Dean - she said so. So, canonically, it's possible that white male is their default setting. Which, as I said, I'd be upset about except that it really looks very very creepy.

[alexseanchai]

Faith. Right. That damn song was stuck in my head all day yesterday so how did I forget about Faith?

[jensenrick]

Where was the payoff from the voicemail? I missed that.

[alexseanchai]

Lucifer saying his brother called him a freak and a monster--I cannot picture those words coming out of an angel's mouth for the life of me (though I don't doubt Michael did say something similarly provocative), but that's exactly what 'Dean' said to Sam in Lucifer Rising.

And if it turns out that the Michael-Lucifer fight that those words provoked was induced by Zachariah or somebody the same way the Dean-Sam fight was, I will squee so loudly they'll hear me twelve timezones away.