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alexseanchai) wrote2014-06-28 06:15 pm
alexseanchai) wrote2014-06-28 06:15 pm
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Halp how do I convincingly bullshit about differences between types of beer. I ask because I have a Camp NaNo character who is an ancient Egyptian beer connoisseur and she'd probably be able to speak coherently about the subject.
(Don't suggest I have a beer tasting. I think the only kind of beer in the house is the one kind my dad drinks and I ain't spending money to find out that all beers taste blech to me. Which is, I predict, the outcome of me holding a beer tasting. It's certainly the outcome just about every time I taste wine.)
(Don't suggest I have a beer tasting. I think the only kind of beer in the house is the one kind my dad drinks and I ain't spending money to find out that all beers taste blech to me. Which is, I predict, the outcome of me holding a beer tasting. It's certainly the outcome just about every time I taste wine.)
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Good thought. Thanks.
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I say, as a beer lover, one who wishes they did not love beer, because wow: empty calories. Yet so, so, so good.
What does your dad drink? (I'm going to be a complete heretic here and say that the difference between good beer and bad is WAY more extreme than between good wine and bad. Beer's a more complex thing than wine, and it's a lot easier to completely fuck up.)
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Thanks!
George Killian's Irish Red.
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If bitterness is the thing you don't really dig, then if/when you decide to attempt beer, I'd say go for a porter or a stout. (I'm of the MOAR HOPS!!! school of beer consumption, though, and am all about the bitter.)
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Nod, nod.
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Nod!
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http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occasional-rarities/ta-henket.htm more specifically.
I have not had that one. Yet. It is on the list.
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Ooooo!
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Ahahahaa WINE AND BEER.
On this tangent, I'd like to point out that bad wine (or cheap wine, actually) has gotten immensely better in the USA in the last 30 years. Bad wine used to be a lot more common and cheap wine used to be a lot worse. There's still bad wine out there, but since wine has always been sort of a luxury product there's been a lot of pressure to make good stuff. Whereas the beer industry in the US has been producing cheap rice-based brew for ages and only recently (same timescale, actually) has the microbrew revolution taken off, so there's still a huge part of the market that's served by cheap, poor-tasting (to connoisseurs) beer, because that's what people are used to.
I have had some pretty bad wine, in other words. I don't think the difference between Bud Light and Pranqster is any more jarring than the difference between Carlo Rossi (or dare I say it, Night Train) and Robert Mondavi. But your mileage may vary significantly!
Re: Ahahahaa WINE AND BEER.
To handcrafted beers made in local breweries, to yoga, to yogurt, to rice and beans and cheese...
(sorry)
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Its function in society was also a lot different. I mean, there was still the "Being drunk is pleasant!" thing that you can see attested in a lot of myths and legends, but in a lot of places early beer was a way to make water safe to drink, and not the purely recreational stuff we have today. It was also a source of nutrition in ancient Egypt – you see reference to beer gruels, and such. I doubt modern categories like "ale" and "lager" would make any sense in that context.
So, if your character is an ancient Egyptian beer-drinker in ancient Egypt (as opposed to a modern-day drinker in ancient Egypt, or a modern day drinker in modern times, or an ancient Egyptian drinker in modern times), that would definitely shape their perceptions and what they'd notice or talk about.
(If the character is an ancient Egyptian in ancient Egypt, I'd also be curious to know what "connoisseur" means in that context. Do they brew beer? Are they a wealthy person who enjoys good beer? That'd also affect how they talk about it.)
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She's an ancient Egyptian beer-drinker in ancient Egypt and she's a wealthy person who enjoys good beer. Sorry for the poor communication. And yeah, 'lager' would certainly not be a term in use, apparently those only started happening a few hundred years ago, which is well after the time period I'm talking.
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http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/zymurgy/pharaoh-ale-brewing-a-replica-of-an-ancient-egyptian-beer/
Also, beer for me is about the grains and the use (or non-use) of hops. A wheat beer is going to taste wildly different than one made with rice. There's a good breakdown here: http://beersmith.com/grain-list/
I second the rec for Dogfish Ales. http://www.dogfish.com/ancientales
I've gotten to the point where I can smell a beer and decide whether I'll like it or not, but I was also with a guy who did a 100-beers-of-the-world-in-3-months contest, so. Wine can be acrid and tannic, which may be why you don't like it; sweeter, lighter-colored wines are less so than their darker, redder cousins usually. Same thing with beer - the lighter it is, the less it's like liquid bread (usually.)
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Thank you!
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Well...
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That makes sense, thanks.